Africa belongs to AFRICANS, according to Zweli Nyathi,
there is no room for Europeans. The ANC will implement the Freedom Charter, and there is NOTHING the Minority
group of South African do about it, said Zweli Nyathi.
I asked a straightforward
question, and now the conversation spills
into racial hatred. However much I try to
understand the mindset of Zweli Nyathi, the
more I realize how arrogant and hell-bent
he is attempting to drive fear into
people. I
will say he is trying his best to show the superiority and a forceful brutality of how AFRICANS can be.
The Egotistical
attitude of Zweli
Nyathi is beyond reasoning, and
perhaps I should stop indulging his fantasy.
Laura Oneale
Jan 23, 2015
A Freedom Fighter, not a terrorist???
Zweli Nyathi
Jan 24, 2015
Laura,Terrorist?
Which world are you from? I think it will be proper to understand South
Africa and it's true history rather than pretending to understand what
we have been through as a human race. Please visit some archives that
have got honest reporting free from propaganda and distortion and you
will be enlightened.
Immortalis Europa
Jan 27, 2015
+Zweli Nyathi
Please enlighten me, but wasn't Mandela the leader of the murderous MK terrorist organization that carried out almost 200 terrorist attacks - killing men, women & children (both black & white)? Didn't he plead guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns? Wasn't he still giving orders while behind bars to MK & the notorious Quatro torture camp, which tortured & "necklaced" blacks (where a tire was placed over the victim's head, doused in gasoline and then set on fire.)?
Not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”
He was continually offered release by the white Apartheid government, but on one condition: that he renounce violence in pursuit of political reform. That is something he consistently refused to do.
Even in his biography Mandela admitted that he had done much wrong.
My experience so far in this world is to do your own research & dig deep, rather than to just assume that archives are going to have "honest reporting" as you put it. We are constantly lied to, about almost everything. You should know that. In any case, it is an undisputed fact that Winnie Mandela was a huge fan of "necklacing". Watch the following clip, and at the 0:34 min and 1:12 min marks you can clearly hear her say "with our 'necklaces' we shall liberate this country!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffv4TcpfyAs
Hundreds were necklaced - all of them blacks. In fact Mandela's terrorist campaign killed far more blacks then whites.
Please enlighten me, but wasn't Mandela the leader of the murderous MK terrorist organization that carried out almost 200 terrorist attacks - killing men, women & children (both black & white)? Didn't he plead guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns? Wasn't he still giving orders while behind bars to MK & the notorious Quatro torture camp, which tortured & "necklaced" blacks (where a tire was placed over the victim's head, doused in gasoline and then set on fire.)?
Not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”
He was continually offered release by the white Apartheid government, but on one condition: that he renounce violence in pursuit of political reform. That is something he consistently refused to do.
Even in his biography Mandela admitted that he had done much wrong.
My experience so far in this world is to do your own research & dig deep, rather than to just assume that archives are going to have "honest reporting" as you put it. We are constantly lied to, about almost everything. You should know that. In any case, it is an undisputed fact that Winnie Mandela was a huge fan of "necklacing". Watch the following clip, and at the 0:34 min and 1:12 min marks you can clearly hear her say "with our 'necklaces' we shall liberate this country!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffv4TcpfyAs
Hundreds were necklaced - all of them blacks. In fact Mandela's terrorist campaign killed far more blacks then whites.
Laura Oneale
Jan 27, 2015
Of
course Mandela was a terrorist. The world called them freedom fighters,
but today they are called terrorists. Immortalis europa. You are right.
Today he is an icon because the world placed him in that position, a
man that did no wrong and so they forget the evil past and allowed him
to rise in status. In fact the leaders replacing Mandela are no better.
Immortalis Europa
Jan 27, 2015
+Laura Oneale
Yes. I totally agree with all of your points. Apartheid was an inhumane system, but It still angers me how our lying mainstream media completely warps peoples' perception so that they end up on the worst side of the two. The ANC has almost ruined what was once such a beautiful, well-functioning country. Today, S. Africa is one of the rape & murder capitals of the world. Africa itself in general is a bit of a mess. Take a look at this site:
http://www.ambrosekane.com/2014/09/17/truth-in-pictures-what-billboard-signs-in-africa-and-in-americas-ghettos-tell-us-about-the-nature-of-blacks/
One of the billboards which shocked me the most was the one depicting three blacks about to rape a white woman. This sign stated: "RAPE RAPE RAPE. You can do it in Finland. Refugees can do anything. YOU WILL NOT BE PUNISHED. Contact the Finnish embassy now.""
Yes. I totally agree with all of your points. Apartheid was an inhumane system, but It still angers me how our lying mainstream media completely warps peoples' perception so that they end up on the worst side of the two. The ANC has almost ruined what was once such a beautiful, well-functioning country. Today, S. Africa is one of the rape & murder capitals of the world. Africa itself in general is a bit of a mess. Take a look at this site:
http://www.ambrosekane.com/2014/09/17/truth-in-pictures-what-billboard-signs-in-africa-and-in-americas-ghettos-tell-us-about-the-nature-of-blacks/
One of the billboards which shocked me the most was the one depicting three blacks about to rape a white woman. This sign stated: "RAPE RAPE RAPE. You can do it in Finland. Refugees can do anything. YOU WILL NOT BE PUNISHED. Contact the Finnish embassy now.""
Zweli Nyathi
Jan 27, 2015
Like
I said, when you discuss these issues with people who were not directly
affected they will always say as they please solely because the
ruthlessness has not been fully discussed to cover up. If it was not for
the armed struggle the enemy would not have surrendered and we would
still be slaves while people enjoy our stolen wealth. There were
casualties on both sides but more on our side as we had no resources to
fight back, to date we still don't know where some of our family members
and relatives are since the truth was not told. It's amazing
how people left countries of their birth right to come and harm innocent people. Politics are better discussed with politically clued up people than commentators. I won't bore you with gory details as they are out there. For the sake of the sacrifice that people like him who went through injustices to liberate his people, leaving his family behind was not an easy decision to make. Let's spread peace than pointing fingers......
how people left countries of their birth right to come and harm innocent people. Politics are better discussed with politically clued up people than commentators. I won't bore you with gory details as they are out there. For the sake of the sacrifice that people like him who went through injustices to liberate his people, leaving his family behind was not an easy decision to make. Let's spread peace than pointing fingers......
Laura Oneale
Jan 28, 2015
Zweli
Nyatha, spreading peace is all good, but when the majority continue to
victimize the minority then what is the purpose. The minority group in
South Africa is today, the most disadvantaged group of people in the
world. Blaming apartheid is one thing but to actually initiate laws to
demoralize the minority is another. Immortalis Europ, your view is spot
on, there is a constant problem and as the years roll by, it only
escalates. Mandela was and will probably remain an icon to the
majority, however, the majority only had a one-sided vision to relate
to. Zweli Nyathi, even you mention the armed struggle, and assume that
the minority are thieves that would steal your wealth. Perhaps that is
all it is about - pure hatred! Please do not forget the hundreds of
innocent victims, including women and children that were ruthlessly
killed during the ANC terror campaign. Do not forget the ongoing
violence and terror of farmers and other victims that are slaughtered in
the most horrific manner to this day. Do not forget the perfect and
workable infrastructure and hard work the minority did to turn South
Africa into a wealthy country. Lastly do not forget that the ANC have
ruined the infrastructure, cannot provide basic service deliveries and
escalate the poverty among people all for self enrichment.
Zweli Nyathi
Jan 28, 2015
Are
you African first and foremost? Can you quantify the casualties on both
sides? It's amazing how you are spot on when it comes covering up all
the unnecessary injustices. Anyway, let's park this discussion and talk
about something creative because we can never agree.
Laura Oneale
Jan 29, 2015
That
is the problem. Assumption that you are right and everybody must feel
the pain you endured. A one sided story. History actually reveals it
all and it was never the minority that kept slaves.... today you are not
free you are still a slave to the ANC
Zweli Nyathi
Yesterday 10:00 PM
I
can see you very politically blank and you are trying very hard
validate colonialism,obviously you benefited from it directly or
indirectly. Let's keep on pushing each other and you will see the real
pain that our people have suppressed for long for the sake of peace or
to accommodate the likes of you. Just let Africa be for Africans......
Laura Oneale
6:49 AM
When
you say "let Africa be for Africans" are you referring to all African
born races or excluding minority groups? What if I told you that I was
born in South African and have a democratic right to live here. I would
assume you would say, that the Europeans came to SA uninvited and
therefore be excluded as an African. Then I would say, the majority of
the black people also came down to South Africa from other parts of the
continent. Therefore I believe that whether the white or black who
searched and explored undeveloped land have every right to claim South
Africa as their own. I do not care about the past, simply because it is
exactly that, THE PAST. Perhaps when the majority stop blaming the past
they will be able to move on. Perhaps the majority should look back at
the last twenty years and realize how much damage has been done to a
country that was functional with vast infrastructure. Perhaps the
freedom the majority so desperately wanted is not freedom at all, but
rather enslavement to the thieving, corrupt ANC government. Mandela was
no saint, please stop crying APARTHEID, and blaming APARTHEID for the
failure of the ANC and its people. Perhaps if Chris Hani had survived
his assassination, the death of the ANC would have been a reality.
Zweli Nyathi
6:57 AM
You
seriously have a problem with the ANC and unfortunately it here to
stay, if it was not for it I would still be carrying a dompass and
having to get a special permit to drive around. Can you guys just return
our stolen land so that we can develop before we grab it forcefully
like you did? We never dealt with the real issues in 1994, racism,
looting that you etc.... Like I said, the arrogance that iam sensing
emanates from the fact that we never dealt with our oppressors to the
fullest hence they are trying so hard to nullify the 300 years of
injustice. We are now ready, watch the space!
Zweli Nyathi
7:01 AM
Who
said you guys must come here in the first place? To come enslave us
because you can't use your hands to feed yourself and you call it
development? Like I said, Europeans don't learn. We have a good examples
in our neighboring countries where people were just fed up and dealt
with them. Watch the space, we are going to to implement the freedom
charter whether you like it or not and the is nothing you or any
European can do about it.....
Zweli Nyathi
7:06 AM
Funny
enough you guys during your reign you never wanted to be called
Africans, you demarcated everything and created your own spaces saying
you Europeans and now you want to floor cross? How convenient? Being
African is not a suntan but it must be in your genes and I guess that's
where the confusion is, burning yourself in the sun for whatever reason
does not automatically make you an African overnight.
Zweli Nyathi
7:06 AM
Funny
enough you guys during your reign you never wanted to be called
Africans, you demarcated everything and created your own spaces saying
you Europeans and now you want to floor cross? How convenient? Being
African is not a suntan but it must be in your genes and I guess that's
where the confusion is, burning yourself in the sun for whatever reason
does not automatically make you an African overnight.
Laura Oneale
7:17 AM
All
read from your comments is HATRED, and a one-sided view. The Europeans
had every right to discover and claim undeveloped jungle land. South
African was a barren land, with nothing and then the Europeans
discovered the land, turned the country into a working, wealthy and
livable space. The knowledge and experience made the country a strong
contender among the world. What did the ANC do, did they build
roads,schools, houses, create electricity, build water reservoirs and so
much more. All the ANC did was see the vast amount of wealth discovered
and cried I WANT IT ALL. Your puny threats are racist and spills
hatred. You are really good at crying "LOOK AT ME, I HAVE SUFFERED" and
want the world to feel sorry for you. Well I have got news for you, the
communistic laws and supremacy the ANC radiate is like a stuck record
and we are all so very tired of hearing the same tune. With regard to
other African countries, yes take a look at them, and what do you see,
total ruin. Remember the whites that lived in the other African
countries might have fled because they were afraid of the savage and
barbaric behaviour of the AFRICANS, but here in South Africa, THE WHITES
are different, as history will prove.
Tell me who you are and what spurs on the hatred, are you so blind that you cannot see how the ANC have lost the plot.
Tell me who you are and what spurs on the hatred, are you so blind that you cannot see how the ANC have lost the plot.
Laura Oneale
7:24 AM
OMG,
you have a blatant hatred for white people, that is your problem. Stop
playing the victim and remember if it were not for the Europeans, you
might still be swinging through the trees.
Zweli Nyathi
7:25 AM
Because
we gave you guys a second chance to live side by side with us and you
are spitting on our faces. Hard lessons are coming soon.
Zweli Nyathi
7:28 AM
You
were never an ANC member and you just read from the papers, you have no
idea what it means to be an ANC means! Please visit the freedom charter
you might be enlightened. We will never surrender this country again,
just make peace with it. It is even clear where your vote is, so don't
stress about ANC as you add no value to it.....
Laura Oneale
7:39 AM
I
must say you are a narcissistic with a HUGE chip on the shoulder. A
fellow blinded to the truth and spewing out racial hatred toward white
people. Do you really believe your harsh words and threats will
intimidate the minority? You are so brainwashed into believing that you
are a superior race, it is actually hilarious.
Zweli Nyathi
7:44 AM
If
you remember how this conversation started, you called Mandela a
terrorist. That is the same guy who stopped us us from kicking your
butts when we could, you already leaving South Africa like a colony of
bees. How grateful you are? Blinded is the thing of the past for so many
Africans, slave trade etc belongs there. We are wise now, bring it
on....
Laura Oneale
7:54 AM
All
I can say is that you are an egotistical person with a very blurred
mind, brainwashed and living in the past. Mandela was a terrorist and he
never stopped the killing of innocent women and children, not only
whites but blacks as well. Read my blog -
http://dillydee.blogspot.com/2014/03/south-africa-today-living-in-cuckoo_21.html
The true legacy of Nelson Mandela is that he is a terrorist, the founder of Umkhonto we Sizwe, the military wing of the African National Party (ANC). Mandela left South Africa in 1962 and sought help for a violent struggle. He negotiated for both financial and military aid with communist countries, including East Germany and China. He gained strong support from Cuba, the Egyptian government, and the Soviet Union, whom all gave tremendous aids to his terrorist organization.
It is a well documented fact that Mandela was a terrorist.
I am going to post all these comments on my blog, share on social media and hopefully some good will come out of the racial hatred you have toward the majority group. I suggest you take some time out and realize that not everything you said is true. Try and think OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
http://dillydee.blogspot.com/2014/03/south-africa-today-living-in-cuckoo_21.html
The true legacy of Nelson Mandela is that he is a terrorist, the founder of Umkhonto we Sizwe, the military wing of the African National Party (ANC). Mandela left South Africa in 1962 and sought help for a violent struggle. He negotiated for both financial and military aid with communist countries, including East Germany and China. He gained strong support from Cuba, the Egyptian government, and the Soviet Union, whom all gave tremendous aids to his terrorist organization.
It is a well documented fact that Mandela was a terrorist.
I am going to post all these comments on my blog, share on social media and hopefully some good will come out of the racial hatred you have toward the majority group. I suggest you take some time out and realize that not everything you said is true. Try and think OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
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